On Thursday we finished viewing "V for Vendetta." You are to write a paragraph-length comment in response to this post after viewing the movie. You may chose to compare/contrast "V" with "1984" or you may choose to comment on "your impressions." For example, which world would be worse to live in for the citizens? What were the goals of the different governments? Please make your comment thoughtful and remember to edit prior to publication.
Tomorrow, we will read an essay (titled "Language as the 'Ultimate Weapon' in 1984") and then write a paragraph discussing "Orwell and the English Language." In writing your paragraph, you will compare Orwell's views after considering Newspeak in "1984," the essay "Politics and the English Language," and today's reading. Your paragraph should be illustrative of the development you've experienced in your writing after receiving four weeks of my detailed feedback and after your own meta cognition. Good luck.
I think the world in 1984 would be worse because you have no freedom and it would be the most boring life. Being watched everything you do and doing the same thing everyone else does, seems pretty boring. I also think that the V for Vendetta is a way better story and the movie is better than the 1984 movie. I just found the V for Vendetta more interesting.
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Between the societies of V for Vendetta and 1984, i believe that both would be hard to live in but certainly, 1984s society would be the most unpleasant. While in V for Vendetta they are issued a curfew and there are unruley guards roaming the street, it would not be as terrible as being brainwashed and living in the conditions that the people in 1984 live in. In V for Vendetta the citizens are allowed to wear and talk about whatever they want and are allowed to work and live where ever they want; the restrictions are not as tight and brutal as in 1984. In 1984 they are to all wear the same thing and only think or do what they are supposed to. Any deviation results in torture and eventual death. It is clear to me that life in V for Vendetta would be far superior to that in 1984.
ReplyDeleteThe governments in V for Vendetta and 1984 were both extremely controlling and the citizens of both were harshly suppressed by extreme dictatorships, but in two very different ways. In V for Vendetta, their society was regulated but the citizens were still allowed to experience reality. However, in 1984, even thought is strictly controlled. The "High Chancellor" was often concerned with covering up scandals and murders, where as in 1984, Big Brother would have just altered history and thought of the citizens, because "he who controls the present, controls the past". In V for Vendetta, the people had a chance to stick up for themselves and bring down the government and this is simply unimaginable in 1984. Any sort of rebellion would just end you up in "Miniluv". There is room for much more hope and progress in a society like that in V for Vendetta than in 1984 and this was without a doubt, the High Chancellors largest error.
ReplyDeleteTo live in a totalitarian state anywhere would be terrible but there is always a worse situation. In V for vendetta it may be a totalitarian society but there is still a sense of freedom. However, in 1984 all freedoms are taken away, causing Oceanians became slaves both physically and mentally. Resentment and hate are obliterated in 1984 but in the movie (v for vendetta) the government didn't seem to care about the thoughts of its citizens. I agree with Evey Hammond because a society does "need hope," and because of the hope that is instilled in the people I believe that the futuristic London would be a much better place to live in. Hope is based on beginning to overcome fear and since totalitarianism is a government ruling by fear it is apparent that the people of London 2038 will be free in the near future (to them.)
ReplyDeleteAfter viewing the movie "V for Vendetta" I see some similarities to the novel 1984. Both worlds have a controlling government that believe that they can change the history and cover up their lies. However one of the things that is different about the two worlds is that the government in "V" didn't succeed. The citizens in "V" didn't believe the lies like the citizens of Oceania did. I think that if the government of "V" could of kept in control, their society would turn out much like Oceania's. They would have brainwashed their people enough for them to be not able to fight back.
ReplyDeleteGeorge orwells book 1984 and the movie "V for Vendetta" are both based off a totalitarian government, from the point of view of a citizen. Winston and V both know that its the people that are the only ones who can start a revolution. Although V is an "idea" and Winston is more of a follower, and hes not a very good knife thrower. All in all the government goals are the same, they want power and winston an V want it changed. For example : the government in "V for Vendetta" killed thousands by sending out a freak virus. While Big Brother makes it seem like oceania is always at war.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, it would be worse to live in the world of "1984" than "V for Vendetta". Though what is happening in "V for Vendetta" seems worse that what is going on in 1984, in the end everything is being resolved. In "1984" there are much more rules to every day life that are mandatory to follow, However in "V for Vendetta" there are less strict rules that seemed cruel or against ones rights. Overall, I enjoyed the concept of "V for Vendetta" over the concept of "1984".
ReplyDeleteDespite watching "V for Vendetta" for the second time in 2 days I find that it was still a much more entertaining movie than "1984". Although they share similar concepts about politcal issues and corrupt government officials I feel as though "V" was easier to follow and get into. In "1984" the civilians were basically brain washed into believing whatever the party said but in "V" the government party just lied and tried to cover up the bad things they had done. However, in "V" the government was eventually found out and parliment was blown up. Even though the ending of "V" wasn't that realistic I still found it better than "1984".
ReplyDeleteWhile "V for Vendetta" and "1984" have the same theme, each left me with very different feeling. I believe that the motives of the governments within each story revolve around power, the level of power attained however is not the same. The government in "V for Vendetta" does not seem to have as much control over it's citizens as the government in "1984'. For this reason, if I had to, I would rather be a citizen in "V for Vendetta" than "1984". The minds of the people in "V for Vendetta" are not as crippled. "V for Vendetta" left me with a feeling of hope and overall happiness, while a happy ending may seem a childish reason for a preference I'm not afraid to admit it. "1984" however left me with a feeling of sorrow and defeat, however I can still appreciate the quality of the novel. I have never read "V for Vendetta" so I can not comment on the quality of writing, but between the movies "V for Vendetta" is my definite favorite.
ReplyDeleteThe governments in both "V for Vendetta" and "1984" are built and continue to rule through the power of fear that is inflicted upon the citizens. The world of "1984" would be worse to live in because in "V" there is a least the right for one to think freely. However for both worlds to act on your thoughts is strictly not allowed, doing so will horrible punishment. Through the governments the truth is turned into lies in order to remain control over their subjects. Both "V" and "1984" include the party and its members, televisions/telescreens all around the city, patrols in the streets and the image of the "great" party leader. The world that we see in "V For Vendetta" is more likely to become a reality than that of "1984." The difference in endings between the two connect in a way that in "1984" Winston believed that the proles would rise and over throw the government but did not. However in "V For Vendetta" the citizens of London were able to come together to over power and support the change that was needed to bring hope to society.
ReplyDeleteIt was interesting for me that in both worlds the control of information is key. "V" shows how a state-controlled media can be used to manipulate reality, but the movie also shows how the fabrications of the state are still questioned by some. Both stories also portray the layering of power that exists in government. The citizenry does not always come up against Big Brother or the High Chancellor - sometimes power comes in the form of a simple policeman or other state official. In Socials 11 we looked at the different forms of political protest people use to effect change, or at least to demonstrate their displeasure. "V" successfully gets us to empathize with the "heroes" and accept violence as an acceptable means of protest and we are shown that "violence can be used for good." We are left to ask what is the measure that indicates when violence is morally acceptable. And in both stories we're left to understand the ultimate cost of such action on the actors. Who would be willing to "pay the ultimate price" for freedom?
ReplyDelete"V for Vendetta" and "1984" have some similarities and some differences.The difference between "1984" and "V for Vendetta" is that in "V for Vendetta" someone is actually trying to blow up parlament, and in "1984" there is no one to challenge the government. However, both are alike because the government is the same, with one person on top and everybody else down below. Both governments are full of rules and guidelines that one must follow or they will be executed.
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ReplyDeleteI believe that the world that exists in "V for Vendetta" would be a far superior world to live in than the world of "1984". As many commenters have already pointed out, the freedoms afforded to citizen's of V's England are far greater than those afforded to citizen's of Oceania. In addition, people have aalso pointed out that the government in V's England have much less control over the hearts and minds of the people than the Party in Oceania has, and dissenters and rebels can still exist, live, and even succeed in V's England, unlike in Oceania. I also think that the world of "V for Vendetta" is made infinitely more hopeful because other states exist that do not follow essentially identical principles as the government of England. Whereas in "1984" you would be stuck in the same situation no matter where you were, in "V for Vendetta" there is a whole world out there that is not under this style of government, which also indirectly helps the chance of rebellion by giving the people some room that is not controlled by their government. I also believe that the reason that the revolution in V's England is succesful is that the rebels have a symbol. V himself becomes a symbol, eventually sacrificing himself secure in the knowledge that the ideal will live on without him, essentially immortalizing him. There was a scene, right at the end of "V for Vendetta" that I think summarized the differences between it and "1984" better than any paragraph response could. As the people of England watch Parliament explode, they all begin to remove their masks, revealing their faces. Among them are every character ever killed by the Party, standing victorious and completely content. These characters haven't returned to life, but have simply been immortalized in their symbols and the hope they represent.
Also why is there no edit post function, I'm terrible at catching my mistakes immediately after writing something...
ReplyDeleteI find that "1984" and "V for Vendetta" both have similar ideas and concepts. They live by a Totalitarian type of government where the citizens have little power. Although they're similar they also have some differences. For instance, in "V for Vendetta" a citizen actually rebelled and succeeded which changed the control of power for the citizens from little to quite a lot. While in "1984" Winston wanted to rebel but never pulled through and in the end the government kept complete power over the people. Also in "1984" you didn't have freedom of thought or opinion. People lived in fear of being caught by the Thought Police and being executed. While in "V for Vendetta" you could live your life as long as you didn't interfere with the government. I enjoyed "V for Vendetta" a lot more than "1984" because of the way everything ended.
ReplyDeleteThe way of life in "V for Vendetta" and "1984" are similar in the way that their countries are run. They both have a totalitarian government and not a lot of freedom. I think it would be much better to live in the time of "V for Vendetta" because even though power was limited, citizens rebelled. In "1984" not only power was limited but you didn't even have the freedom to think what you wanted without being caught and tortured. Ultimately it would have been much better to be a part of "V for Vendetta" because the citizens accomplished something and didn't just live in fear.
ReplyDeletelife in both "BB's" England and "V's" England may be totalitarian but life in a V England woud be far superer to a BB world because of many better things that the society has like better health care, computers, a untampered history and a leader instead of a idea. The distribution of wealth wasn't super fucked like in "1984". The worst thing with a V England is all the religion and the power is had. On the other hand it seemed like it was cleaner and had potential to revert back.
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